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Professor Elizabeth Clare<\/strong> had long eschewed textbooks for her biology students before she discovered the magic of podcasting. Now, she\u2019s made a mark as a pioneer in the science podcast space, offering students and other learners accessible, easy-to-digest lessons in biology.\u00a0<\/h3>\n\n\n\n
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For the last two years, the associate professor in ¿ì²¥ÊÓƵ\u2019s Department of Biology in the Faculty of Science has been busy supplementing classroom learning with her podcast, \u201cBioAudio<\/a>.\u201d  <\/p>\n\n\n

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Her 33 episodes \u2013 hosted on BuzzSprout and available free on Apple and Spotify \u2013 cover topics from her biology classes and feature interviews with an expert or former student. The podcasts have been downloaded more than 18,000 times in 71 countries, with York students making up roughly 80 per cent of the listeners. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Her podcasting started almost by accident, Clare says. She was teaching in England and one of her classes became fascinated by transposable elements, also known as jumping genes. It\u2019s an obscure topic, Clare says, and not her area of specialization, but she happened to have a friend who earned his PhD studying the topic. She asked him to speak to the class over Skype.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cWe spent an hour peppering him with questions,\u201d Clare says. \u201cThe students loved it.\u201d  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Next, Clare invited another friend \u2013 a scientific author \u2013 to talk to students about their work. The students then started asking for experts on various topics, and Clare began taping these talks. When she joined York in 2021, some of her students requested podcasts; Clare found that appealing because it showed students were driving a shift in learning and deciding how they wanted to access information. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cI\u2019ve always been a bit frustrated by textbooks. I don't really like teaching from a textbook. It\u2019s there if we need it, but students are looking for novel sources of information,\u201d she says. \u201cI like science the way I teach it. I like it as a story you can tell, and this just fits with the podcast format.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n

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In Clare\u2019s first-year classes, students use both a textbook and the podcast; however, in upper-year classes, she\u2019s stopped relying on textbooks and no longer assigns traditional text readings.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cScience, particularly at an advanced level, changes fast. Textbooks can\u2019t always keep up when you are teaching new research stories.\u201d  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Teaching by podcast is a great leveller: students don\u2019t have to buy a $200 textbook; podcasts are free; and it turns out, podcasts are helpful for students with specific learning disabilities, Clare says.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

One student told Clare, \u201cI simply can\u2019t sit down and read a chapter of a text. But I can put this on a loop and ride my bike.\u201d  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cThe funny thing is the students really love it. I thought they would find it fun. It's fun for me to make,\u201d Clare says. \u201cBut I didn\u2019t think they would come to rely on it the way they do. What I had not anticipated was the number of students, in that first year where I really got going with it, who came up and said, \u2018You don't understand, this is an equity issue.\u2019\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Other student feedback has been extremely positive, Clare says, and they continue to request more content. Some have even offered to help make more episodes.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Christian <\/strong>Nakla<\/strong> is one of those students. He\u2019s a fourth-year biology student who was in Clare\u2019s third-year biology class on evolution where, says Clare, he became known as the \u201cQuestion Guy\u201d for asking so many questions. He helped create a podcast episode on reproductive barriers and isolation for Clare\u2019s first-year biology class. The episode<\/a> explains how reproductive barriers prevent interbreeding between populations.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nakla says making the podcast was rewarding. He is particularly pleased that BioAudio is accessible for non-students and says because it simplifies complex scientific concepts the information is easy for beginners to understand.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cI think this is a very noble effort to bring this sort of knowledge to students but also to people who are not necessarily enrolled at ¿ì²¥ÊÓƵ in science,\u201d he says.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Encouraging students to be enthusiastic about science is part of what drives this effort for Clare. And it\u2019s working.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cApparently, last year, in my third-year class, there were groups of students getting together on Friday nights and having podcast parties.\u201d  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

She\u2019s witnessed first-hand how podcasting, as a resource, is growing. Recently, Clare received an email from a professor in another country who said she\u2019d discovered BioAudio and asked to use the podcast as a teaching aid.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cOK?\u201d says Clare. \u201cIt\u2019s great. I\u2019d love for others to find it valuable. When I got the idea for this, I figured there was already something available. I went looking, but there was just nothing in the podcast world on this topic. So, I had to make it myself. But if I\u2019ve now filled the gap for someone else, that\u2019s really cool.\u201d   <\/p>\n\n\n\n

This week\u2019s episode is \u201cFossils, Rocks and Radioactive Clocks.\u201d It explores how scientists date ancient events through a discussion with mammal paleontologist Mathew Jones and can be found here<\/a> or free on other podcast platforms.\u202f<\/em>\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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